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Entries, stops, targets and the reward-to-risk math

Lesson 20 · about 10 min

Every setup in this course produces three prices before entry: where you get in, where you are wrong, and where you expect the opposition. This lesson standardizes how each is chosen and then shows the arithmetic that decides whether a setup is worth taking at all. The Risk Management course covers sizing from the stop; this lesson stops at R:R and break-even win rate.

Entries: three styles

Style Trigger Advantage Cost
Confirmation Break of the signal candle's high (long) or low (short) Fewer false starts Worse entry price, wider stop
At the close Enter at the close of the signal candle Simple, one decision per candle No confirmation of follow-through
Anticipation Limit order inside the zone before the candle completes Best price, tightest stop More failures; sometimes no candle forms

This course defaults to confirmation for beginners because it removes one common error: entering on a candle that looked like a hammer with ten minutes to go and closed as something else. The price you pay for confirmation is a larger stop distance and a lower R:R. That trade-off is real and you should compute both versions of a setup to see it.

Example, hammer with low 60.90, high 62.30, close 62.20, zone 61.50-62.00, average range 1.30, buffer 0.26:

Entry style Entry Stop Risk Target 66.40 reward R:R
Confirmation 62.30 60.64 1.66 4.10 2.47
At the close 62.20 60.64 1.56 4.20 2.69
Anticipation 61.70 60.64 1.06 4.70 4.43

The anticipation entry has nearly twice the R:R of the confirmation entry. It also gets filled on every pullback that goes on to break the level, so its win rate is lower. Neither number alone tells you which is better; the product of the two does, and that is the point of the last section.

Stops: beyond structure, with a buffer

The stop belongs at the price where the trade's story is false, plus a buffer for noise:

  • Long at a level: below the signal candle's low or the zone's bottom, whichever is lower.
  • Short at a level: above the signal candle's high or the zone's top, whichever is higher.
  • Buffer: a fraction of the average range on the trading timeframe. This course uses 20%; on instruments with a wide bid-ask spread, add the spread.

Stops are not placed at a fixed dollar amount, a fixed percentage, or a round number. All three put the stop somewhere the market does not care about, which means it can be hit by noise while the story is still intact, or left unhit while the story has already failed. The stop is derived from the chart; the position size (Risk Management course) is derived from the stop.

Key idea: The stop goes where the story breaks, plus a small buffer. Everything else about the trade, including its size, is calculated from that price.

Targets: the next level

The target is the next place you expect opposition: the next swing high for a long, the next swing low for a short, the range's other edge, a prior day level, or a round number if it is the only thing nearby. It is drawn from the same map you built in Module 3, and like the stop it is a chart-derived price, not a dollar figure.

Two targets are common: take part of the position at the first level and hold the rest for the one beyond it, moving the stop to break-even after the first target. The arithmetic for a split target is a weighted average:

  • Half at 66.40 (reward 4.10) and half at 68.90 (reward 6.60), from entry 62.30 with risk 1.66:
  • Average reward = (4.10 + 6.60) ÷ 2 = 5.35. Blended R:R = 5.35 ÷ 1.66 = 3.22, if both targets are hit.

The "if" matters. In practice the second half is often stopped at break-even, and the realized R:R is lower than the planned one. Record both, as the Risk Management course insists.

The break-even win rate

For any R:R, there is a win rate below which the setup loses money. Ignoring costs:

Break-even win rate = 1 ÷ (1 + R:R)

R:R Break-even win rate
0.5 66.7%
1.0 50.0%
1.5 40.0%
2.0 33.3%
2.5 28.6%
3.0 25.0%

For the confirmation entry above (R:R 2.47), you break even at 1 ÷ 3.47 = 28.8%. If your measured win rate for pullback setups in this market is 45%, the setup has an edge. If it is 25%, it does not, regardless of how good the chart looked.

Now the anticipation entry (R:R 4.43): break-even at 1 ÷ 5.43 = 18.4%. If the anticipation entry's measured win rate is 30%, it is also profitable, and likely more so:

  • Confirmation: expectancy per trade = (0.45 × 2.47) − (0.55 × 1) = 1.11 − 0.55 = 0.56R
  • Anticipation: expectancy per trade = (0.30 × 4.43) − (0.70 × 1) = 1.33 − 0.70 = 0.63R

Close, and the anticipation entry wins slightly despite a much lower win rate. Costs (spread, commissions, slippage) hit the lower win-rate style harder because it takes more losses, so this margin can vanish. The only way to know is to measure, which is Module 6.

Minimum R:R for this course

Before entry, compute R:R using the confirmation entry, the structural stop with buffer, and the first target. Rules:

  • Below 1.5: skip. The setup needs a win rate above 40% to break even before costs, and candle-based setups rarely deliver that consistently.
  • 1.5 to 2.5: acceptable if the setup passes all three confluence questions.
  • Above 2.5: take it if it passes confluence; also be suspicious. A very high R:R often means the target is unrealistic (a level far away that price is unlikely to reach in one move) or the stop is unrealistically tight.

The pre-entry line

Write one line per trade, before entry:

Long 62.30 | stop 60.64 (below hammer low + 0.26) | target 66.40 (prior swing high) | risk 1.66 | reward 4.10 | R:R 2.5 | BE win rate 29%

If you cannot fill in every field, you do not have a setup; you have an opinion.

Try it: Take the ten breakout-and-retest sequences from Lesson 2 and compute all three entry styles for each: confirmation, close, and anticipation (limit at the zone's midpoint). Record the R:R for each style and whether each would have been filled and whether it would have won. Thirty lines in a spreadsheet. Compute the average R:R and win rate per style, then the expectancy. This is the whole of trading system design, in miniature.

Recap

  • Three entry styles: confirmation (break of the signal candle), at the close, and anticipation (limit in the zone). Better price means lower win rate; compute both.
  • Stop: beyond the signal candle's extreme or the zone edge, plus a 20% of average range buffer. Never a fixed dollar amount or a round number.
  • Target: the next level on the chart; split targets are averaged and the realized R:R is usually lower than planned.
  • Break-even win rate = 1 ÷ (1 + R:R). Expectancy = (win rate × R:R) − (loss rate × 1).
  • Minimum planned R:R of 1.5; write the pre-entry line with every field filled or do not trade.

See it drawn

Original diagrams for the ideas on this page. Illustrative, not real market data.

The win rate needed to break evenA falling curve: the more a winning trade pays relative to the amount risked, the smaller the share of trades that must win to break even.BREAKEVEN WIN RATE0%20%40%60%80%1:11:21:31:41:5REWARD-TO-RISK RATIO1:1 needs 50%1:2 needs 33.3%1:3 needs 25%breakeven win rate = 1 ÷ (1 + reward-to-risk)above the curve, wins more than cover losses
The win rate needed to break even. How often a method must win just to stay level, for each reward-to-risk ratio. At 1:1 half the trades must win, at 1:2 a third, and at 1:3 a quarter, because each win covers more losses.
The parts of a candlestickAn up candle and a down candle with the same high and low, labelled with open, high, low, close, the real body and the wicks.UP CANDLEclose above openHigh 41.00Close 40.30Open 38.20Low 37.40upper wickreal bodyopen to closelower wickDOWN CANDLEclose below openHigh 41.00Open 40.30Close 38.20Low 37.40Same high and low; only the open and close swap places.
The parts of a candlestick. One candle sums up a slice of time: the thick real body runs from the opening price to the closing price, and the thin wicks reach out to the highest and lowest prices traded. Colour tells you which way the body ran.
The spread of outcomes behind an expectancyA histogram of forty trades: a tall block of small losses on the left, a low spread of larger wins on the right, and a line marking the average outcome.NUMBER OF TRADES051024 LOSSES, AVG −$20016 WINS, AVG +$600EXPECTANCY +$120−$400−$200$0+$200+$400+$600+$800PROFIT OR LOSS PER TRADEexpectancy = (40% × $600) − (60% × $200) = +$120 per trade
Expectancy: the average trade. Forty trades sorted by outcome: 24 small losses and 16 larger wins. Weighting each side by how often it happens gives the average result per trade, marked here by the dashed line at +$120.

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