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Due diligence and reputation signals

Lesson 21 · about 9 min

Everything in this course assumes the firm will honour its own rules and pay. Since 2023 that assumption has failed often enough that firm selection is a risk decision on the same footing as position sizing. This lesson gives you a checklist you can complete in an hour, and a set of signals that separate firms which have paid consistently from firms which have not.

The checklist

Work through it in order and write the answers down. A firm that fails any item in the first group should not receive your fee.

Group 1: existence and identity

Item How to check
Legal entity name and registration number on the terms Company registry in the stated country
Years operating under this entity (not the brand) Registry incorporation date; archived versions of the site
Named leadership, reachable support with a ticket system About page, support test question before buying
Which platform and data provider, and whether they are current Platform's own list of partner firms; recent announcements
Whether the firm accepts customers from your country Terms; support in writing

Group 2: the rules, in the firm's own words

Item Where
Drawdown type, base, and lock (Module 2) Rules page, FAQ, terms; all three must agree
Daily limit base and whether open trades count Same
Consistency, minimum days, size caps, news windows Same
Payout: minimum days, threshold, cadence, caps, split Funded rules page; often separate from evaluation page
The discretionary and "inconsistent with live market" clauses Terms of service, usually near the end
Rule-change history and whether changes applied to existing accounts Archived site versions; community forum threads

If the rules page, FAQ and terms disagree, the terms win, and the disagreement itself is a signal.

Group 3: money

Item How to check
Fee, reset fee, activation fee, monthly fees, data fees Checkout page; total the full path to a funded account
Refund of the fee on first payout (some firms) Funded rules
Payout methods and processing time in the terms Terms; compare against forum reports
Whether payouts come from a regulated payment processor or a crypto wallet Payout page

Key idea: Due diligence is an hour of reading the firm's own documents and one search of what people say happened at payout time. A firm that cannot pass that hour has not earned a fee, however good the discount code.

Reputation signals

No single review site is reliable; affiliates post positive reviews and failed traders post negative ones. Look instead for patterns over time.

Signals that a firm has been paying:

  • Payout reports from named community members over several years, including small ones, with the timeline from request to receipt.
  • Rule changes that were announced in advance and applied only to new purchases.
  • The firm publishing anything at all about pass rates or payout totals, even unfavourable numbers.
  • Support that answers rules questions specifically, in writing, before you buy.
  • A stable platform and data provider relationship of more than a year.

Signals to weigh heavily against a firm:

  • Payout delays that cluster in time, with support citing "review" for many accounts at once.
  • Rule changes applied to existing funded accounts, especially to drawdown type or consistency.
  • A change of legal entity or jurisdiction without a clear explanation.
  • Heavy discounting (60% to 90% off, permanently) combined with aggressive affiliate marketing. Fee revenue under pressure is a reason to tighten payouts.
  • Terms that allow the firm to void profits for "any reason" with no appeal process.
  • New firm, no track record, huge nominal accounts, unusually generous rules. Generosity that the funnel in Module 1 cannot support is not going to last.

Weighting the signals

You are not looking for a firm with no complaints; every firm has failed traders with grievances. You are looking for the absence of payout-time patterns and rule-change-on-existing-accounts patterns over at least a year. Read the community forum at /f/prop-firm-reviews for the specific firm, sort by date, and look for what changed when.

A simple scoring approach: give the firm one point for each "paying" signal and subtract two for each "against" signal. Below zero, do not buy. Between zero and two, buy the smallest evaluation only. Three or more, proceed with the plan from Modules 3 and 4.

Try it: Complete Group 1 and Group 2 for one firm and time it. Then post or read the firm's thread at /f/prop-firm-reviews and note the three most recent payout reports with dates and request-to-receipt times.

Recap

  • Due diligence covers identity (entity, age, platform, jurisdiction), rules in the firm's own words, and the full cost and payout path.
  • The terms override the rules page; disagreement between them is itself a warning.
  • Positive signals are dated payout reports over years, rule changes applied only forward, and specific written support answers.
  • Negative signals are clustered payout delays, changes applied to existing accounts, entity changes, permanent deep discounting and unappealable discretion clauses.

See it drawn

Original diagrams for the ideas on this page. Illustrative, not real market data.

Support, resistance and the flip between themA price path bouncing three times off a horizontal support line and turning back three times at a resistance line, then breaking above it and settling back onto the same level.RESISTANCESUPPORT62.0056.00breaks aboveold resistance,now supportIllustrative price path: the level stays the same, its role changes.
Support, resistance and the flip. Support is a price where buyers keep stepping in and the fall stops; resistance is a price where sellers keep stepping in and the rise stops. Once price closes above an old ceiling, that same level often acts as the new floor.
How a position size is worked outAccount size, risk per trade and stop distance feed into one box giving the number of shares.ACCOUNT SIZE$25,000your capitalRISK PER TRADE1%of the accountSTOP DISTANCE$0.50entry to stopPOSITION SIZE500 sharesrisk budget: $25,000 × 1% = $250position size: $250 ÷ $0.50 = 500 shares
Working out a position size. Three numbers decide how big a trade is: the account, the share of it put at risk, and the distance from entry to stop. One percent of $25,000 is a $250 budget, and a $0.50 stop divides into that 500 times.
An equity curve and its drawdownAn account balance rising over a year, falling from a peak to a trough, then climbing back to the old peak.ACCOUNT EQUITY$20k$12k$8k024681012TIME (MONTHS)PEAK $16,000TROUGH $12,000DRAWDOWN−25%RECOVERY
Equity curve and drawdown. An account balance plotted month by month. The fall from the $16,000 peak to the $12,000 trough is a 25% drawdown, and the shaded area lasts until the balance climbs back to the old peak.