Due diligence and reputation signals
Lesson 21 · about 9 min
Everything in this course assumes the firm will honour its own rules and pay. Since 2023 that assumption has failed often enough that firm selection is a risk decision on the same footing as position sizing. This lesson gives you a checklist you can complete in an hour, and a set of signals that separate firms which have paid consistently from firms which have not.
The checklist
Work through it in order and write the answers down. A firm that fails any item in the first group should not receive your fee.
Group 1: existence and identity
| Item | How to check |
|---|---|
| Legal entity name and registration number on the terms | Company registry in the stated country |
| Years operating under this entity (not the brand) | Registry incorporation date; archived versions of the site |
| Named leadership, reachable support with a ticket system | About page, support test question before buying |
| Which platform and data provider, and whether they are current | Platform's own list of partner firms; recent announcements |
| Whether the firm accepts customers from your country | Terms; support in writing |
Group 2: the rules, in the firm's own words
| Item | Where |
|---|---|
| Drawdown type, base, and lock (Module 2) | Rules page, FAQ, terms; all three must agree |
| Daily limit base and whether open trades count | Same |
| Consistency, minimum days, size caps, news windows | Same |
| Payout: minimum days, threshold, cadence, caps, split | Funded rules page; often separate from evaluation page |
| The discretionary and "inconsistent with live market" clauses | Terms of service, usually near the end |
| Rule-change history and whether changes applied to existing accounts | Archived site versions; community forum threads |
If the rules page, FAQ and terms disagree, the terms win, and the disagreement itself is a signal.
Group 3: money
| Item | How to check |
|---|---|
| Fee, reset fee, activation fee, monthly fees, data fees | Checkout page; total the full path to a funded account |
| Refund of the fee on first payout (some firms) | Funded rules |
| Payout methods and processing time in the terms | Terms; compare against forum reports |
| Whether payouts come from a regulated payment processor or a crypto wallet | Payout page |
Key idea: Due diligence is an hour of reading the firm's own documents and one search of what people say happened at payout time. A firm that cannot pass that hour has not earned a fee, however good the discount code.
Reputation signals
No single review site is reliable; affiliates post positive reviews and failed traders post negative ones. Look instead for patterns over time.
Signals that a firm has been paying:
- Payout reports from named community members over several years, including small ones, with the timeline from request to receipt.
- Rule changes that were announced in advance and applied only to new purchases.
- The firm publishing anything at all about pass rates or payout totals, even unfavourable numbers.
- Support that answers rules questions specifically, in writing, before you buy.
- A stable platform and data provider relationship of more than a year.
Signals to weigh heavily against a firm:
- Payout delays that cluster in time, with support citing "review" for many accounts at once.
- Rule changes applied to existing funded accounts, especially to drawdown type or consistency.
- A change of legal entity or jurisdiction without a clear explanation.
- Heavy discounting (60% to 90% off, permanently) combined with aggressive affiliate marketing. Fee revenue under pressure is a reason to tighten payouts.
- Terms that allow the firm to void profits for "any reason" with no appeal process.
- New firm, no track record, huge nominal accounts, unusually generous rules. Generosity that the funnel in Module 1 cannot support is not going to last.
Weighting the signals
You are not looking for a firm with no complaints; every firm has failed traders with grievances. You are looking for the absence of payout-time patterns and rule-change-on-existing-accounts patterns over at least a year. Read the community forum at /f/prop-firm-reviews for the specific firm, sort by date, and look for what changed when.
A simple scoring approach: give the firm one point for each "paying" signal and subtract two for each "against" signal. Below zero, do not buy. Between zero and two, buy the smallest evaluation only. Three or more, proceed with the plan from Modules 3 and 4.
Try it: Complete Group 1 and Group 2 for one firm and time it. Then post or read the firm's thread at /f/prop-firm-reviews and note the three most recent payout reports with dates and request-to-receipt times.
Recap
- Due diligence covers identity (entity, age, platform, jurisdiction), rules in the firm's own words, and the full cost and payout path.
- The terms override the rules page; disagreement between them is itself a warning.
- Positive signals are dated payout reports over years, rule changes applied only forward, and specific written support answers.
- Negative signals are clustered payout delays, changes applied to existing accounts, entity changes, permanent deep discounting and unappealable discretion clauses.
See it drawn
Original diagrams for the ideas on this page. Illustrative, not real market data.